Things To Do This Evening

Going to be a busy evening. After work, I need to:

– Go grocery shopping
– File a formal, written DMCA copyright infringement complaint against kinkychristians.com for copying large swaths of my Web site without permission or attribution, and on top of that having the gall to claim copyright on the material themselves
– Buy rope
– Do laundry – oh, sweet Jesus, do lots and lots of laundry

Any theologians out there on my flist? Who would Jesus crib copyrighted material from?

52 thoughts on “Things To Do This Evening

  1. but really, the question is

    who would Christians crib from, and the answer is:

    Mithra
    Odin
    Ra
    Prometheus
    Jupiter

    and a bunch of other peoples…

  2. but really, the question is

    who would Christians crib from, and the answer is:

    Mithra
    Odin
    Ra
    Prometheus
    Jupiter

    and a bunch of other peoples…

    • The best way I’ve found so far is to take a sentence or two from the site that you know are unique and search in Google as a quoted literal. You’ll usually have to hit the “Repeat the search with omitted results included” button in Google to see all the results if a significant number of copies of the site exist.

      In this particular case, though, I found out because someone posted about it on a mailing list I read. The kinkychristians.com Web site is a member-based site, so it isn’t indexed by Google.

  3. Charming, and good luck.
    I’m still fighting with Alt.Com over a story of mine that was stolen & posted there (a few people had even commented before I found it that it was stolen from me & the person that did it posted 27 stories in 2 days, all from other sources, then deleted her account but they won’t remove it), and has been told he can’t do anything about a guy who stole his images without $$$$ to fight it.
    Ugh.

    • Actually, you (and ) do have alternatives; you do not need to deal directly with Alt.com or with the infringing Web site. Instead, you can invoke the “Safe Harbor” provisions of the DMCA to go directly to the Web site’s ISP. The ISP is required to take action against the Web site within ten days of receiving the formal written complaint.

      In order to file a formal complaint, you must identify the ISP hosting the infringing material, and then find that ISP’s copyright agent. The communication has to be written, and must contain the following information:

      – A physical or electronic signature of a person (“Complaining Party”) authorized to act on behalf of the owner
      of an exclusive right that is claimed to be infringed;

      -Identification of the copyrighted work claimed to have been infringed, or if multiple copyrighted works at a
      single online site are covered by a single notification, a representative list of such works at that site;

      – Identification of the material that is claimed to be infringing or to be the subject of infringing activity and that
      is to be removed or access to which is to be disabled, and information reasonably sufficient to permit the
      service provider to locate the material;

      – Information reasonably sufficient to permit the service provider to contact the Complaining Party, such as an
      address, telephone number, and, if available, an electronic mail address at which the complaining party may
      be contacted;

      – A statement that the Complaining Party has a good faith belief that use of the material in the manner
      complained of is not authorized by the copyright owner, its agent, or the law; and

      – A statement that the information in the notification is accurate, and under penalty of perjury, that the
      Complaining Party is authorized to act on behalf of the owner of an exclusive right that is allegedly infringed (or is the owner of the copyright allegedly infringed).

      The Web host for Alt.com is Savvis Communications Corporation (savvis.net); their copyright agent address is:

      DMCA Designated Agent
      SAVVIS Communications Corporation
      Attn: Katie Flowers
      One SAVVIS Parkway
      Town & Country, Missouri 63017
      Phone: (314) 628-7122

      If you send a letter with your signature and the statement of correctness/perjury stuff, identifying the URL of the material on Alt.com that infringes your copyright, Savvis must within ten days of receipt of the letter remove the infringing material from the Web site. At that point, they will give a copy of your copyright claim to the owners of the Web site, who have fifteen days to contest the claim; if they don’t, Savvis is obligated to remove it permanently.

      • In Diable’s case, the material was removed but prior to it being removed the individual had branded it as his own and sold gallery views for it & prints of it, profiting to the tune of several thousands of dollars before it was removed.

        TY for the advice on dealing with Alt tho.

  4. Charming, and good luck.
    I’m still fighting with Alt.Com over a story of mine that was stolen & posted there (a few people had even commented before I found it that it was stolen from me & the person that did it posted 27 stories in 2 days, all from other sources, then deleted her account but they won’t remove it), and has been told he can’t do anything about a guy who stole his images without $$$$ to fight it.
    Ugh.

  5. Your cause is certainly just, but surely it must feel at least a little dirty (not in the good way) to be invoking the DMCA? I’d equate it with liberating nazi concentration camps using a supertank whose treads are kept lubricated by regularly crushing live babies. You know you’re doing the right thing, but it still haunts you.

    Of course, this assumes some facsimile of a conscience, so my entire line of thinking may be purely academic. 😉

    • You do make an excellent point, though I think there’s a poetic justice to turning the DMCA back around so the business end isn’t facing ordinary people. Perhaps a better analogy would be liberating nazi concentration camps using a hijacked nazi supertank whose treads are kept lubricated by regularly crushing live babies…

      • Perhaps a better analogy would be liberating nazi concentration camps using a hijacked nazi supertank whose treads are kept lubricated by regularly crushing live babies…

        Good analogy.

        Great premise for a video game.

  6. Your cause is certainly just, but surely it must feel at least a little dirty (not in the good way) to be invoking the DMCA? I’d equate it with liberating nazi concentration camps using a supertank whose treads are kept lubricated by regularly crushing live babies. You know you’re doing the right thing, but it still haunts you.

    Of course, this assumes some facsimile of a conscience, so my entire line of thinking may be purely academic. 😉

  7. The best way I’ve found so far is to take a sentence or two from the site that you know are unique and search in Google as a quoted literal. You’ll usually have to hit the “Repeat the search with omitted results included” button in Google to see all the results if a significant number of copies of the site exist.

    In this particular case, though, I found out because someone posted about it on a mailing list I read. The kinkychristians.com Web site is a member-based site, so it isn’t indexed by Google.

  8. Actually, you (and ) do have alternatives; you do not need to deal directly with Alt.com or with the infringing Web site. Instead, you can invoke the “Safe Harbor” provisions of the DMCA to go directly to the Web site’s ISP. The ISP is required to take action against the Web site within ten days of receiving the formal written complaint.

    In order to file a formal complaint, you must identify the ISP hosting the infringing material, and then find that ISP’s copyright agent. The communication has to be written, and must contain the following information:

    – A physical or electronic signature of a person (“Complaining Party”) authorized to act on behalf of the owner
    of an exclusive right that is claimed to be infringed;

    -Identification of the copyrighted work claimed to have been infringed, or if multiple copyrighted works at a
    single online site are covered by a single notification, a representative list of such works at that site;

    – Identification of the material that is claimed to be infringing or to be the subject of infringing activity and that
    is to be removed or access to which is to be disabled, and information reasonably sufficient to permit the
    service provider to locate the material;

    – Information reasonably sufficient to permit the service provider to contact the Complaining Party, such as an
    address, telephone number, and, if available, an electronic mail address at which the complaining party may
    be contacted;

    – A statement that the Complaining Party has a good faith belief that use of the material in the manner
    complained of is not authorized by the copyright owner, its agent, or the law; and

    – A statement that the information in the notification is accurate, and under penalty of perjury, that the
    Complaining Party is authorized to act on behalf of the owner of an exclusive right that is allegedly infringed (or is the owner of the copyright allegedly infringed).

    The Web host for Alt.com is Savvis Communications Corporation (savvis.net); their copyright agent address is:

    DMCA Designated Agent
    SAVVIS Communications Corporation
    Attn: Katie Flowers
    One SAVVIS Parkway
    Town & Country, Missouri 63017
    Phone: (314) 628-7122

    If you send a letter with your signature and the statement of correctness/perjury stuff, identifying the URL of the material on Alt.com that infringes your copyright, Savvis must within ten days of receipt of the letter remove the infringing material from the Web site. At that point, they will give a copy of your copyright claim to the owners of the Web site, who have fifteen days to contest the claim; if they don’t, Savvis is obligated to remove it permanently.

  9. You do make an excellent point, though I think there’s a poetic justice to turning the DMCA back around so the business end isn’t facing ordinary people. Perhaps a better analogy would be liberating nazi concentration camps using a hijacked nazi supertank whose treads are kept lubricated by regularly crushing live babies…

  10. In Diable’s case, the material was removed but prior to it being removed the individual had branded it as his own and sold gallery views for it & prints of it, profiting to the tune of several thousands of dollars before it was removed.

    TY for the advice on dealing with Alt tho.

  11. Perhaps a better analogy would be liberating nazi concentration camps using a hijacked nazi supertank whose treads are kept lubricated by regularly crushing live babies…

    Good analogy.

    Great premise for a video game.

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