Going to be a busy evening. After work, I need to:
– Go grocery shopping
– File a formal, written DMCA copyright infringement complaint against kinkychristians.com for copying large swaths of my Web site without permission or attribution, and on top of that having the gall to claim copyright on the material themselves
– Buy rope
– Do laundry – oh, sweet Jesus, do lots and lots of laundry
Any theologians out there on my flist? Who would Jesus crib copyrighted material from?
Buddha!
Does copyright have Buddha-nature?
Well, I dunno… if I’m reincarnated, do I get to keep all my old stuff? 😀
*stacks plastic pyramids in such a way to demonstrate an example of a copyright not having Buddha nature*
Hmm. But what if I put the blue one on top of the red one?
Well, that would have Buddha-nature, but also you’d be violating the trademarks of the Pepsi corporation.
Buddha!
Does copyright have Buddha-nature?
but really, the question is
who would Christians crib from, and the answer is:
Mithra
Odin
Ra
Prometheus
Jupiter
and a bunch of other peoples…
Re: but really, the question is
And Celts! Don’t forget the Celts!
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And from, apparently.
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Yes yes! Add his name to the list of false gods! 🙂
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We prefer the term “alternative gods.” The word “false” seems so…judgmental.
but really, the question is
who would Christians crib from, and the answer is:
Mithra
Odin
Ra
Prometheus
Jupiter
and a bunch of other peoples…
Well, I dunno… if I’m reincarnated, do I get to keep all my old stuff? 😀
Re: but really, the question is
And Celts! Don’t forget the Celts!
How do you find out if you site’s text is being stolen?
The best way I’ve found so far is to take a sentence or two from the site that you know are unique and search in Google as a quoted literal. You’ll usually have to hit the “Repeat the search with omitted results included” button in Google to see all the results if a significant number of copies of the site exist.
In this particular case, though, I found out because someone posted about it on a mailing list I read. The kinkychristians.com Web site is a member-based site, so it isn’t indexed by Google.
How do you find out if you site’s text is being stolen?
Re: but really, the question is
And from, apparently.
*stacks plastic pyramids in such a way to demonstrate an example of a copyright not having Buddha nature*
Oh lovely!
So are items 2 and 3 related? Let me know if you need a large tree with good, stout branches. 😛
Items 2 and 3 are, in this case, completely unrelated, believe it or not. But now that you mention it…
Oh lovely!
So are items 2 and 3 related? Let me know if you need a large tree with good, stout branches. 😛
Charming, and good luck. has been told he can’t do anything about a guy who stole his images without $$$$ to fight it.
I’m still fighting with Alt.Com over a story of mine that was stolen & posted there (a few people had even commented before I found it that it was stolen from me & the person that did it posted 27 stories in 2 days, all from other sources, then deleted her account but they won’t remove it), and
Ugh.
Actually, you (and) do have alternatives; you do not need to deal directly with Alt.com or with the infringing Web site. Instead, you can invoke the “Safe Harbor” provisions of the DMCA to go directly to the Web site’s ISP. The ISP is required to take action against the Web site within ten days of receiving the formal written complaint.
In order to file a formal complaint, you must identify the ISP hosting the infringing material, and then find that ISP’s copyright agent. The communication has to be written, and must contain the following information:
-Identification of the copyrighted work claimed to have been infringed, or if multiple copyrighted works at a
single online site are covered by a single notification, a representative list of such works at that site;
– Identification of the material that is claimed to be infringing or to be the subject of infringing activity and that
is to be removed or access to which is to be disabled, and information reasonably sufficient to permit the
service provider to locate the material;
– Information reasonably sufficient to permit the service provider to contact the Complaining Party, such as an
address, telephone number, and, if available, an electronic mail address at which the complaining party may
be contacted;
– A statement that the Complaining Party has a good faith belief that use of the material in the manner
complained of is not authorized by the copyright owner, its agent, or the law; and
– A statement that the information in the notification is accurate, and under penalty of perjury, that the
Complaining Party is authorized to act on behalf of the owner of an exclusive right that is allegedly infringed (or is the owner of the copyright allegedly infringed).
The Web host for Alt.com is Savvis Communications Corporation (savvis.net); their copyright agent address is:
DMCA Designated Agent
SAVVIS Communications Corporation
Attn: Katie Flowers
One SAVVIS Parkway
Town & Country, Missouri 63017
Phone: (314) 628-7122
If you send a letter with your signature and the statement of correctness/perjury stuff, identifying the URL of the material on Alt.com that infringes your copyright, Savvis must within ten days of receipt of the letter remove the infringing material from the Web site. At that point, they will give a copy of your copyright claim to the owners of the Web site, who have fifteen days to contest the claim; if they don’t, Savvis is obligated to remove it permanently.
In Diable’s case, the material was removed but prior to it being removed the individual had branded it as his own and sold gallery views for it & prints of it, profiting to the tune of several thousands of dollars before it was removed.
TY for the advice on dealing with Alt tho.
Charming, and good luck. has been told he can’t do anything about a guy who stole his images without $$$$ to fight it.
I’m still fighting with Alt.Com over a story of mine that was stolen & posted there (a few people had even commented before I found it that it was stolen from me & the person that did it posted 27 stories in 2 days, all from other sources, then deleted her account but they won’t remove it), and
Ugh.
dem sneaky christains and their copywritin’… how did you find out they used stuff from your site?
dem sneaky christains and their copywritin’… how did you find out they used stuff from your site?
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Yes yes! Add his name to the list of false gods! 🙂
Your cause is certainly just, but surely it must feel at least a little dirty (not in the good way) to be invoking the DMCA? I’d equate it with liberating nazi concentration camps using a supertank whose treads are kept lubricated by regularly crushing live babies. You know you’re doing the right thing, but it still haunts you.
Of course, this assumes some facsimile of a conscience, so my entire line of thinking may be purely academic. 😉
lubricated by regularly crushing live babies
That must be that wonderful, miracle product called “baby oil”…
*ducks*
You do make an excellent point, though I think there’s a poetic justice to turning the DMCA back around so the business end isn’t facing ordinary people. Perhaps a better analogy would be liberating nazi concentration camps using a hijacked nazi supertank whose treads are kept lubricated by regularly crushing live babies…
Perhaps a better analogy would be liberating nazi concentration camps using a hijacked nazi supertank whose treads are kept lubricated by regularly crushing live babies…
Good analogy.
Great premise for a video game.
Your cause is certainly just, but surely it must feel at least a little dirty (not in the good way) to be invoking the DMCA? I’d equate it with liberating nazi concentration camps using a supertank whose treads are kept lubricated by regularly crushing live babies. You know you’re doing the right thing, but it still haunts you.
Of course, this assumes some facsimile of a conscience, so my entire line of thinking may be purely academic. 😉
The theological explanation is that the devil did it by going back in time and plagiarizing Jesus before he came, all as part of a ploy to confuse people and shake their faith.
He should’ve waited ’til after Jesus came, and was enjoying the cigarette.
Praise Bob!
The theological explanation is that the devil did it by going back in time and plagiarizing Jesus before he came, all as part of a ploy to confuse people and shake their faith.
lubricated by regularly crushing live babies
That must be that wonderful, miracle product called “baby oil”…
*ducks*
The best way I’ve found so far is to take a sentence or two from the site that you know are unique and search in Google as a quoted literal. You’ll usually have to hit the “Repeat the search with omitted results included” button in Google to see all the results if a significant number of copies of the site exist.
In this particular case, though, I found out because someone posted about it on a mailing list I read. The kinkychristians.com Web site is a member-based site, so it isn’t indexed by Google.
Items 2 and 3 are, in this case, completely unrelated, believe it or not. But now that you mention it…
Actually, you (and) do have alternatives; you do not need to deal directly with Alt.com or with the infringing Web site. Instead, you can invoke the “Safe Harbor” provisions of the DMCA to go directly to the Web site’s ISP. The ISP is required to take action against the Web site within ten days of receiving the formal written complaint.
In order to file a formal complaint, you must identify the ISP hosting the infringing material, and then find that ISP’s copyright agent. The communication has to be written, and must contain the following information:
-Identification of the copyrighted work claimed to have been infringed, or if multiple copyrighted works at a
single online site are covered by a single notification, a representative list of such works at that site;
– Identification of the material that is claimed to be infringing or to be the subject of infringing activity and that
is to be removed or access to which is to be disabled, and information reasonably sufficient to permit the
service provider to locate the material;
– Information reasonably sufficient to permit the service provider to contact the Complaining Party, such as an
address, telephone number, and, if available, an electronic mail address at which the complaining party may
be contacted;
– A statement that the Complaining Party has a good faith belief that use of the material in the manner
complained of is not authorized by the copyright owner, its agent, or the law; and
– A statement that the information in the notification is accurate, and under penalty of perjury, that the
Complaining Party is authorized to act on behalf of the owner of an exclusive right that is allegedly infringed (or is the owner of the copyright allegedly infringed).
The Web host for Alt.com is Savvis Communications Corporation (savvis.net); their copyright agent address is:
DMCA Designated Agent
SAVVIS Communications Corporation
Attn: Katie Flowers
One SAVVIS Parkway
Town & Country, Missouri 63017
Phone: (314) 628-7122
If you send a letter with your signature and the statement of correctness/perjury stuff, identifying the URL of the material on Alt.com that infringes your copyright, Savvis must within ten days of receipt of the letter remove the infringing material from the Web site. At that point, they will give a copy of your copyright claim to the owners of the Web site, who have fifteen days to contest the claim; if they don’t, Savvis is obligated to remove it permanently.
You do make an excellent point, though I think there’s a poetic justice to turning the DMCA back around so the business end isn’t facing ordinary people. Perhaps a better analogy would be liberating nazi concentration camps using a hijacked nazi supertank whose treads are kept lubricated by regularly crushing live babies…
Re: but really, the question is
We prefer the term “alternative gods.” The word “false” seems so…judgmental.
Hmm. But what if I put the blue one on top of the red one?
He should’ve waited ’til after Jesus came, and was enjoying the cigarette.
In Diable’s case, the material was removed but prior to it being removed the individual had branded it as his own and sold gallery views for it & prints of it, profiting to the tune of several thousands of dollars before it was removed.
TY for the advice on dealing with Alt tho.
Well, that would have Buddha-nature, but also you’d be violating the trademarks of the Pepsi corporation.
Perhaps a better analogy would be liberating nazi concentration camps using a hijacked nazi supertank whose treads are kept lubricated by regularly crushing live babies…
Good analogy.
Great premise for a video game.
Praise Bob!